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	<title>Comments on: Develop compelling iphone applications with JSF + Facelets + Seam</title>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelyuan.com/blog/2008/01/08/develop-compelling-iphone-applications-with-jsf-facelets-seam/#comment-68448</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 06:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like a good app. Can't wait to see how it turns out. For latess news on the iPhone and other information check out this site http://www.iphonenewsvault.com. I found this site very useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like a good app. Can&#8217;t wait to see how it turns out. For latess news on the iPhone and other information check out this site <a href="http://www.iphonenewsvault.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.iphonenewsvault.com</a>. I found this site very useful.</p>
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		<title>By: iPhone Sales</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelyuan.com/blog/2008/01/08/develop-compelling-iphone-applications-with-jsf-facelets-seam/#comment-67054</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone Sales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's great at least that apple has opened up the iPhone to allow developers to build stuff for it. Glad apple understands open source.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s great at least that apple has opened up the iPhone to allow developers to build stuff for it. Glad apple understands open source.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Yuan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Yuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mohamed,

1. Yes, Seam in general simplifies things a lot in JSF development. For starters, it makes it very easy to write RESTful pages that are accessibled via GET URLs -- I think that is a pretty important feature for mobile as people like to text mobile web links around in SMS.

2. I do not know any specific mobile initiative inside JBoss. But this is an open source project and you are welcome to contribute!

cheers
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mohamed,</p>
<p>1. Yes, Seam in general simplifies things a lot in JSF development. For starters, it makes it very easy to write RESTful pages that are accessibled via GET URLs &#8212; I think that is a pretty important feature for mobile as people like to text mobile web links around in SMS.</p>
<p>2. I do not know any specific mobile initiative inside JBoss. But this is an open source project and you are welcome to contribute!</p>
<p>cheers<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Mohamed Himi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohamed Himi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Michael,

I don’t know, if this is the right place to ask you some questions about Seam in the context of mobile application development...
The reason i'm asking you this, is because of your great expertise in both area's.

I’m a student at a high school in the Netherlands and a reader of your good book (JBoss Seam: Simplicity and Power Beyond Java).

As a study project, we are investigating for a bank, what Java frameworks are the best candidates to reimplement the presentation tier for there mobile application. (currently written in Struts/Stxx/XSLT/Spring/SOAP/JMS).

The requirements are as follows:
- defacto standard / big community
- short learning curve
- device capability recognition / transparency
- support for separation of roles (java developer vs page designer)

So far we can oversee, we think that a combination of JSF / Ericsson MobileFaces would be a good choice:
JSF because:
- it’s primarily a Sun specification, so available on every JavaEE server.
- Sophisticated life-cycle , event model and component model
- Big community of component vendors and possibility to create own custom components
- Other technologies relies on it or extends it
- Support for several render technologies and possibility to create own custom renderers

Ericsson MobileFaces because:
- specially written to enhance development of mobile applications
- relies on JSF and supports sizing depending on device capabilities
- makes it possible to plug-in a device recognition repository such as WURFL

My questions to you are:
- Is JBoss Seam a good consideration in the context of a ‘stateless’ mobile application, and what are the benefits? (there is no use of EJB3 or persistence).
- Are you aware of ideas from JBoss to further extend the Seam framework with interesting things for mobile development?

Please if you have better advises, considerations, directions lets us know, specially for technologies for device recognition and screen adaptation.

Thanks, in advance!

Mohamed</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Michael,</p>
<p>I don’t know, if this is the right place to ask you some questions about Seam in the context of mobile application development&#8230;<br />
The reason i&#8217;m asking you this, is because of your great expertise in both area&#8217;s.</p>
<p>I’m a student at a high school in the Netherlands and a reader of your good book (JBoss Seam: Simplicity and Power Beyond Java).</p>
<p>As a study project, we are investigating for a bank, what Java frameworks are the best candidates to reimplement the presentation tier for there mobile application. (currently written in Struts/Stxx/XSLT/Spring/SOAP/JMS).</p>
<p>The requirements are as follows:<br />
- defacto standard / big community<br />
- short learning curve<br />
- device capability recognition / transparency<br />
- support for separation of roles (java developer vs page designer)</p>
<p>So far we can oversee, we think that a combination of JSF / Ericsson MobileFaces would be a good choice:<br />
JSF because:<br />
- it’s primarily a Sun specification, so available on every JavaEE server.<br />
- Sophisticated life-cycle , event model and component model<br />
- Big community of component vendors and possibility to create own custom components<br />
- Other technologies relies on it or extends it<br />
- Support for several render technologies and possibility to create own custom renderers</p>
<p>Ericsson MobileFaces because:<br />
- specially written to enhance development of mobile applications<br />
- relies on JSF and supports sizing depending on device capabilities<br />
- makes it possible to plug-in a device recognition repository such as WURFL</p>
<p>My questions to you are:<br />
- Is JBoss Seam a good consideration in the context of a ‘stateless’ mobile application, and what are the benefits? (there is no use of EJB3 or persistence).<br />
- Are you aware of ideas from JBoss to further extend the Seam framework with interesting things for mobile development?</p>
<p>Please if you have better advises, considerations, directions lets us know, specially for technologies for device recognition and screen adaptation.</p>
<p>Thanks, in advance!</p>
<p>Mohamed</p>
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		<title>By: Elegando &#187; Blog Archive &#187; iPhone User Interface</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelyuan.com/blog/2008/01/08/develop-compelling-iphone-applications-with-jsf-facelets-seam/#comment-47812</link>
		<dc:creator>Elegando &#187; Blog Archive &#187; iPhone User Interface</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 22:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Yuan has a quick article about using Seam to program web apps for the iPhone in Seam. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Michael Yuan has a quick article about using Seam to program web apps for the iPhone in Seam. [...]</p>
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