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	<title>Comments on: JBoss Seam book makes the JavaOne official best seller list</title>
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		<title>By: Groovy on Grails &#187; Blog Archive &#187; JavaOne 2007: What Bloggers Thought about Groovy</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelyuan.com/blog/2007/05/09/jboss-seam-book-makes-the-javaone-official-best-seller-list/#comment-22389</link>
		<dc:creator>Groovy on Grails &#187; Blog Archive &#187; JavaOne 2007: What Bloggers Thought about Groovy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jun 2007 00:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Michael Yuan [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Stuart Halloway</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelyuan.com/blog/2007/05/09/jboss-seam-book-makes-the-javaone-official-best-seller-list/#comment-17056</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart Halloway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2007 16:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Michael,

Congrats on your book, I look forward to reading it. I think you are missing some information on the JavaOne book stats that might cause you to revisit your conclusions on Groovy and Ruby: http://www.relevancellc.com/2007/5/16/javaone-book-sales-statistics-in-context</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Michael,</p>
<p>Congrats on your book, I look forward to reading it. I think you are missing some information on the JavaOne book stats that might cause you to revisit your conclusions on Groovy and Ruby: <a href="http://www.relevancellc.com/2007/5/16/javaone-book-sales-statistics-in-context" rel="nofollow">http://www.relevancellc.com/2007/5/16/javaone-book-sales-statistics-in-context</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Yuan</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelyuan.com/blog/2007/05/09/jboss-seam-book-makes-the-javaone-official-best-seller-list/#comment-16944</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Yuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 20:58:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,

You are absolutely right. We need more higher end content for Seam. But Seam is still a very new framework (for enterprise users at least). It takes time to perfect the best practices etc. But we are trying very hard at it now. It may not be another book -- but as a series of white paper or something. In the meanwhile, if you have good ideas you'd like to share, we are all ears. :)

Re the blog layout: It looks fine in my Firefox. Which browser are you using? Thanks.

cheers
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>You are absolutely right. We need more higher end content for Seam. But Seam is still a very new framework (for enterprise users at least). It takes time to perfect the best practices etc. But we are trying very hard at it now. It may not be another book &#8212; but as a series of white paper or something. In the meanwhile, if you have good ideas you&#8217;d like to share, we are all ears. <img src='http://www.michaelyuan.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Re the blog layout: It looks fine in my Firefox. Which browser are you using? Thanks.</p>
<p>cheers<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelyuan.com/blog/2007/05/09/jboss-seam-book-makes-the-javaone-official-best-seller-list/#comment-16942</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2007 20:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations - its a good book, too, and deserves its recognition.  Too minor comments though - first, something about this entry seems to have messed up the flow on the first page of your blog.  Second - and this is more about the book - what I'd dearly love to see as a follow-up would be a true Enterprise book about Seam.  Something that built on the first book, for example, but assumed that you're building a clustered, translated, EJB3 application and went on from there.  I think that there's a lot of good use of Seam in the higher-end-than-Ruby world, but there's currently a dearth of consise best-practicies around it as a framework.

You can get a lot from piecing together JSF/JBoss/Hibernate/etc practices and experience, but it would be wondeful to have a comprehensive guide, especially since Seam does take care of some (but not all) of the issues for you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations - its a good book, too, and deserves its recognition.  Too minor comments though - first, something about this entry seems to have messed up the flow on the first page of your blog.  Second - and this is more about the book - what I&#8217;d dearly love to see as a follow-up would be a true Enterprise book about Seam.  Something that built on the first book, for example, but assumed that you&#8217;re building a clustered, translated, EJB3 application and went on from there.  I think that there&#8217;s a lot of good use of Seam in the higher-end-than-Ruby world, but there&#8217;s currently a dearth of consise best-practicies around it as a framework.</p>
<p>You can get a lot from piecing together JSF/JBoss/Hibernate/etc practices and experience, but it would be wondeful to have a comprehensive guide, especially since Seam does take care of some (but not all) of the issues for you.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Yuan</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelyuan.com/blog/2007/05/09/jboss-seam-book-makes-the-javaone-official-best-seller-list/#comment-16842</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Yuan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 17:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Anjan,

The &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0132354802/mobileenterpr-20/" rel="nofollow"&gt;"Rich Client Programming"&lt;/a&gt; book is also focused on NetBeans. :) Notice that there is no Eclipse book on the list despite the overall higher popularity of Eclipse among Java developers.

Re: Seam and Juice: Seam already supports Spring! And Juice support will come soon -- actually Gavin and Bob Lee did a presentation togeter at J1 :)

cheers
Michael</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Anjan,</p>
<p>The <a href="http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0132354802/mobileenterpr-20/" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Rich Client Programming&#8221;</a> book is also focused on NetBeans. <img src='http://www.michaelyuan.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Notice that there is no Eclipse book on the list despite the overall higher popularity of Eclipse among Java developers.</p>
<p>Re: Seam and Juice: Seam already supports Spring! And Juice support will come soon &#8212; actually Gavin and Bob Lee did a presentation togeter at J1 <img src='http://www.michaelyuan.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>cheers<br />
Michael</p>
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		<title>By: Anjan Bacchu</title>
		<link>http://www.michaelyuan.com/blog/2007/05/09/jboss-seam-book-makes-the-javaone-official-best-seller-list/#comment-16834</link>
		<dc:creator>Anjan Bacchu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2007 16:26:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi michael,

  Thanks for the list from those of us who couldn't make it there.

  about netbeans : but there is only 1 netbeans book out there!

JBoss Seam : yeah, it's about time more people got around to using Seam. You guys should make Spring and Guice users adopt Seam users by playing nice and coming up with tutorials!

big surprise : Java Data Mining.

Booch's OOAD book : after reading robert martin's book, I thought that this book would never happen but good to know that there is a new edition. Would love to see reviews of this book.

BR,
~A</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi michael,</p>
<p>  Thanks for the list from those of us who couldn&#8217;t make it there.</p>
<p>  about netbeans : but there is only 1 netbeans book out there!</p>
<p>JBoss Seam : yeah, it&#8217;s about time more people got around to using Seam. You guys should make Spring and Guice users adopt Seam users by playing nice and coming up with tutorials!</p>
<p>big surprise : Java Data Mining.</p>
<p>Booch&#8217;s OOAD book : after reading robert martin&#8217;s book, I thought that this book would never happen but good to know that there is a new edition. Would love to see reviews of this book.</p>
<p>BR,<br />
~A</p>
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